Curse

Tyla · Nov 02, 2008, 08:01 PM // 20:01

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Originally Posted by fenix

Game is dead, no one does anything with people unless they're in a huge PvE alliance (lolbad).

Huge PvE alliances are win, you should try trolling ours sometime. Good fun.

kostolomac · Nov 02, 2008, 08:03 PM // 20:03

PUG-ing with random people is possible if you have a lot of patience and time on your hands. There are rare occasions where the people are nice , willing to discuss their builds and strategy and are willing to try again if we fail.

Dzjudz · Nov 02, 2008, 08:04 PM // 20:04

Yes, I pug most of EOTN. The rest not so much.

poasiods · Nov 02, 2008, 11:03 PM // 23:03

I pugged my survivor ranger through all three campaigns. Prophecy isn't too bad since the missions aren't too complicated. You see some scary stuff in Factions, but Nightfall usually takes the cake. Some of the most memorable pugging missions are...

Bloodstone Fen
People just keep killing the fooking druids. Explain it to them three times before the mission and on your way there as well as just before you run across the druids. You end up sitting there and watch in frustration as some idiot slowly hacks the druid to death. I had to gather a group just for the bonus three times because people kept killing it.

Riverside Province
People always end up getting split up somehow. I surprisingly have met several people experienced at doing it.

Thunderhead Keep
This one makes me wanna smash my labtop's monitor and karate-chop it in half. Always, about half the team has no idea what's going on and runs off to the gates when it's so much more convenient sticking to the king and letting the Jades duke it out.

Ring of Fire Island Chain
What's Infused?

Factions
Raisu Palace
Just a confusing clusterfook especially when you have to rush over the bridges to get somewhere...

Nightfall
Grand Court of Sebelkeh
"LFR Mission"...

Sidheyuna Aetheris · Nov 03, 2008, 12:53 AM // 00:53

Every now and then I get kinda nostalgic about pugging, and pop into a random mission outpost here and there to do it for teh lulz. Guildies and I call it "PUG Fever."

PUGs were an integral part of my early experience with the game, and I'll admit it's sad to see that particular social aspect slowly disappear from the non-elite areas of the game. A good guild is a great experience in and of itself, but it's not quite the same as throwing caution to the wind and risking it on a bunch of complete strangers. Perhaps I'm masochistic, but I find the experience amusing. I don't even care if we successfully complete the mission or fail it. Sometimes, it's more fun to fail, tbh, or at least to watch other people fail. Sounds horrible, I know, but you haven't truly enjoyed the game till you've completed Iron Mines with 6 melee, a prot monk, and a SMITER...or at least failed it magnificently. (Psssh...who needs elite skillz anyway?!?!)

I'm not always in that mood though, and most of the time I really don't have the patience to deal with the risk and frustration involved with PUGs. Only when the moon's full... >_^

Hyper Cutter · Nov 03, 2008, 01:28 AM // 01:28

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Originally Posted by here to troll

the only way people would start pugging(beside elite missions like uw or sync stuff like uwsc) is if heros got 99% less damage and healing and enchants and weapon spells last 99% less.

Or if PUGs stop sucking.

I only rely on other people when I want to be run through a mission (like Ruins of Morah or the fight against the Great Destroyer, both of which are a royal pain to do myself).

Faer · Nov 03, 2008, 03:39 AM // 03:39

I played PvE with Avarre and Queenie the other night. Shit was SO cash.

But yeah other than jumping on to help fellow awesome people with shit, no. I don't think anything can be done to solve the problem other than severely limiting our Hench choices.

YEAH. REMOVE HENCHMEN. THEY ARE KILLING THE GAME.

Heroes are okay though!

Halmyr · Nov 03, 2008, 04:10 AM // 04:10

I pug with guildies and alliance member every once in a while,, always more enjoyable in the compapgny of others,

But as a full blow random pug....well I stop pugging since I discovert henchies were better at it in most case.....misson came when hero came out.

By then I was already using hero a good chunk of the time, The standart was up for pugs, basic knowledge every one should know since the game as been out for a while, but the actual quality of the players was drop dead.....always 1 or 2 idiots ruinning it for the rest of the player.

cataphract · Nov 03, 2008, 08:13 AM // 08:13

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Originally Posted by Winterclaw

Question, does anyone play PvE with other gamers and not just H/H it? If you do play with others, do you ever pug?

I often play with guildies. DVDF is pretty active and there's always at least a few people that join to help and keep you company. I pugged HoS yesterday.

Well, it started out as a pug - me joining two ninjas and a derv with heroes. It evolved into a DVDF+3 pugs team upon my "anyone for HoS" question in the AC. The pugs were astounded.

Shasgaliel · Nov 03, 2008, 08:31 AM // 08:31

I PUG once a while. Playing with other people is still more fun that those predictable h/h. I join often for playing with guild (vanquish, dungeon) just for the fun of it. On the other hand I do not see how to effectively improve pugging possibility or improve pugging experience for a community. I guess the best would be for people to change their expectations and stop forcing others to play their way.
Getting masters in vizunah without a monk and with 8 melee chars is possible! Just be more open and less perfectionist I guess.

upier · Nov 03, 2008, 08:34 AM // 08:34

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Originally Posted by Winterclaw

Is there anything that can be done to make grouping with real people more attractive than the old Ursan?

Needs moar people.
It's kinda hard to play with people when everything is empty.

Nessar · Nov 03, 2008, 08:41 AM // 08:41

I usually stick with guildies, friends or h/h stuff...Rarely pug nowadays. Used to give them the benefit of the doubt, but not anymore ~.~ Bad pugs 80% of time ftl

daze · Nov 03, 2008, 08:55 AM // 08:55

I only play with people in my alliance, or friends list. Other than that i H/H. It is extremely rare when i even try to PUG just because even with koss running off the map for no reason and dunk standing there scratching his dunkhole and olias spamming death nova on everybody, H/H is still more organized than PUGs

Windf0rce · Nov 03, 2008, 10:01 AM // 10:01

I think PUGs are fun and I did lots of it when playing my Elementalist through the game. However now that I completed most PvE titles on her, I don't PUG or PvE much anymore - only a few HM dungeons and vanquishes remaining and it is hard to PUG such specific stuff. I'll prob do it with 1 friend and 6 heroes.

I still PUG at Alliance Battles and Heroes Ascent though. It is fun, although at times it can be frustrating.

Once the title rework update comes, I'll see if I will make a new PvE char to play through the campaigns again, and most definitely I'll PUG with him (might not be as effective as heroes but it is more fun and gets the job done).

Daenara · Nov 03, 2008, 10:11 AM // 10:11

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Originally Posted by fenix

No.

End of thread.

Fenix.. you can come play with me! :P

Actually, I never pug. The last few times that I did, ended up ending in frustration, so it's just not worth it. I need to know the people that I'm playing with, so I can mention something if their omgsogoodechoflarespammer build is terrible.

Wish Swiftdeath · Nov 03, 2008, 10:19 AM // 10:19

i tried pugging yesterday

we failed once and so the wammo changed to healing instead of mashing power attack... after we failed again i just went h/h and mastered in 17 minutes(Raisu Palace).

I still pug for fun but when i want something done i go h/h

daze · Nov 03, 2008, 10:25 AM // 10:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wish Swiftdeath

i tried pugging yesterday

we failed once and so the wammo changed to healing instead of mashing power attack... after we failed again i just went h/h and mastered in 17 minutes(Raisu Palace).

I still pug for fun but when i want something done i go h/h

How the hell did you fail with a mending wammo on your team? You must have been doing something wrong yourself.
Mending wammos are the best tank healers ever.

pamelf · Nov 03, 2008, 12:16 PM // 12:16

I don't PUG, and if I do multiplayer it's only with guildees or people on my friends list. I usually H/H.

Wolf2581 · Nov 03, 2008, 03:07 PM // 15:07

I eventually become acutely depressed after partying with most people. I use heroes and henchmen most often, sometimes teaming with an experienced guild member.

I would like to think that it is not just rampant stupidity. From my alliance I know that some experienced players are inclined to rush and spoil friends who are new to Guild Wars, resulting in players with elite armor and pro gear who know jack shit about the fundamentals.

Painbringer · Nov 03, 2008, 03:33 PM // 15:33

Yes and No…I am a busy person pulled away from things so only if things are calm at home and I know I have time to dedicate to a team I will group. I guess I like the challenge of a random group of people with crazy non conforming builds which most have no clue what is going on. I enjoy helping on the harder missions in Factions and Nightfall. I am the Mesmer in a tattered purple outfit and cape that never talks too much and seems to join any group.